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this is Leslie Kane and you're listening

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to that UFO podcast

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hi everyone and welcome to that UFO

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podcast this is a bonus show last month

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I had the wonderful Paul Sinclair on and

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the feedback from his interview was

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fantastic so many of you getting in

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touch to say you really enjoyed it if

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you remember when I had poll on we were

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talking about a particular incident

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called The hunman Bay incident now Paul

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had to scut over it very quickly just

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due to time constraints but we agreed at

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the end of that it was worth covering in

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a lot more detail so that's exactly what

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we're going to do so I have with me

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again author of the truth proof series

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investigator and researcher Paul

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Sinclair Paul welcome back thank you

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very much Andy it's great to be back and

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it's actually great to be able to tell

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the human being said in with a bit more

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detail because it's an incredible

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account that I don't think anybody's on

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Earth and there's not a lot of people

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heard about it I've spoke about it on

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probably three or four podcasts over a

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number of four or five years so yeah

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we'll give this a go yeah well you

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called it uh another Rend ocean so

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without a doubt when I I talked about it

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at a conference Outer Limits conference

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probably about four years ago sorry for

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cutting through your words there Andy

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and uh

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the I think it well the I can't remember

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newspaper it were a big National

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newspaper picked up on it and it said

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Britain's rendlesham uh sorry Britain's

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Roswell answer to Roswell and one of

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reporters were there that day I can't

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think what the paper was I do apologize

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but it'll be there if you Google it so

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yeah what were you gonna say no it's

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going to say let's start with some of

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the basics then because we touched on it

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last time but let's go like we never

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spoke about it at all whereabouts is and

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that's hit you in m-a-n-b-y yeah that's

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h-u-n-m-a-n-b-y spot on so uh we're not

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we're on the East Yorkshire Coast it's

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in between Scarborough and Bridlington

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so I'm in Bridlington it's approximately

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nine miles from where I am now and two

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miles Inland from the coast just a

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little village uh as I said between

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Eastern North Yorkshire and

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he's got an it's got a rich history of

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unexplained phenomena as well you know

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we touched on Wolf lands which we're not

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going to do today but just to give you

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an example we've included some reports

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of from hummingbee in the documentary

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home and be quite literally means

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Farmstead of the Hound man you know and

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and it's you know going back in ancient

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times but let's jump to the story

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a bit of information probably five years

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ago from a guy who lives in Flamborough

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who's responsible for the overseeing of

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finances in a club uh you know a working

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man's club at flambre we'll just call

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him Jim well that is his name but we're

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not with surname and uh he said I've got

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a bit of an interesting story to tell

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you it says there's been some decorators

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working at the club

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and I've just found myself talking to

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him or during a tea break and things and

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they've just one of them's come out with

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this incredible story they got on about

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unexplained phenomena around the area of

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eastern North Yorkshire nothing to do

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and David who as it happens used to work

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with me his son this guy's son said dad

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tell Jim about the UFO that landed when

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you were working at humanby

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so he unfolded this story so as Jim's

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telling me I said you won't believe it I

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says Andrew actually lives 200 yards

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away from me I've known him over 20

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years his son used to work with me

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and they've never told me not because

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Andrew he he's really he wanted to

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withdraw from it because it was so

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prolific it was so intense when it

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happened and the the amount of attention

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that these guys received by talking

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about it weren't nice for him within the

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local community but cat went out at back

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I mean me and David were great friends

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Andrew as I said he never spoke about it

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but once Jim had told me within a day I

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was up at Andrew's house knocking

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this and I'm in his kitchen he allowed

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me to record him and they were working

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98. they all there were three guys there

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called Steve because he doesn't want his

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secondary jobs they worked during the

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is and Dave worked as a painter and

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decorator I believe and on a night

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they'd come to the unit to assist Steve

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that were needed spraying sign writing

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forum for five o'clock six o'clock

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three a.m in morning but that's the

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basic so you got the gist of what was

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so they'd been working there well 1996

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it's it started subtly

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preparing a car I would no need to say

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what he was doing because I don't know

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rubbing it down or he'd done some

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filling and just to give you an overview

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of the unit it's a huge building that

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other one side door either end as well

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think that's important that we paint

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that picture as we go through story and

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a there's a toilet block a small toilet

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block some stairs leading up to an

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office block

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we're straight past his head

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he's looking and he's kind of smiling to

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himself because back in the 1990s there

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nothing there's just this four foot void

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of Darkness above the office

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remember they're all such a big these

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big corrugated sheeted units and uh

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as a is a crack then there's a crack on

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Steve arrived it weren't them so he told

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thought well it weren't awesome well

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you've been silly like not nothing's

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happened so let me just I've got notes

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Here guys you have to there's just a lot

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they all started hearing these strange

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washers and nuts that were hitting the

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side of the building but from the inside

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when they're all together there's no one

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else in and they did a crack but then

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the other tinkle and the drop on the

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and there's these projectiles Sutter it

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nothing got damaged that's what was

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interesting because they've got high-end

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instances and nothing will get it none

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of the vehicles were getting hit

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so they're trying to work out what's

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1996 because it started June July and

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there was during that period there was a

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guy that worked there was passed away

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called Alan so he experienced it as well

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there's a on the industrial unit and

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it's not big now it's still there it's

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used for something else now but during

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five big units there if we can call them

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coach unit we used to strip cultures out

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and renovate cultures they're still

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who remember uh they remember this

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happening and they were sort of closer

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not that they've fell out but you know

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there's a lot of time elapsed between

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the 1990s and now sure yeah so

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it built up oh and Dave's mum and dad

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used to come every night

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for no other reason I think that they

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wanted to see their Sonny or the

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youngest of these three men so they

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drive through from Bridlington bring him

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a few sandwiches because he'd go

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straight from his day job and and he'd

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sit and talk to Steve the boss and

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talked to Andrew and I think they just

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enjoyed that kind of breaking the

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monotony and stay there for two or three

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hours so that's important because they

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experienced the strange phenomena as

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well so it built up

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over

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months and suddenly

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they would hear a crack and they'd look

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painting lid would fall to the floor

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there's literally there's no floors

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above them it's straight to the roof

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uh they'd be walking and they'd turn

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around and there'd be a coffee jar just

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drop behind them or in front of them all

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sorts of things so all of this is is

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that flew flew off and the loud cracks

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and just need to just go through a few

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more notes people so I was just going to

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it so so far

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well we're going to get to it being you

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know a UFO case

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it starts off with a lot of classic

279
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Paranormal Activity it doesn't it you

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know it's flying about it builds it

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builds it's almost Poltergeist type

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activity yeah just to draw away from

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Human be for a moment I wonder if

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listeners have noted that Poltergeist

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activity in my opinion starts almost

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amoebaish it's almost that there's

287
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subtle things that happen and it kind of

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grows with a person's awareness that

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it's evolving

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uh it it starts as though it's got no

291
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intelligence at first in my opinion you

292
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know the we're just here clicks and

293
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ticks and and strange little things that

294
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subtle things are happening but as as

295
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the person becomes aware of the

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Poltergeist we can we kind of get drawn

297
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into it is it feeding off our energy I

298
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don't know so so all of that happened

299
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unless there's do you want to add any

300
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more to that Andrew no no go for it so

301
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everything happened that there was an

302
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awareness to the phenomena they never

303
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caught it all everything like they did

304
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this crack the turn the beer crack

305
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opposite side and it were all a sort of

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out of their Vision they never caught it

307
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I remember I think the only person that

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saw anything actually flying through the

309
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air was Andrew's son David because they

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were a young lad then and he took him to

311
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the unit one day and he said he actually

312
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saw steel washers flying off the top of

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the roller shutter doors so

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we've got this strange awareness to the

315
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to the phenomena anyway and but in 1997

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after August so we've got June July

317
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August of 96. it stopped in August for

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no reason

319
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uh everything just sort of petered out

320
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so it built in that intensity and

321
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stopped

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they go through the year then the back

323
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to 1997 everything's going as normal

324
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and uh it starts again June 1997. why

325
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June uh and it's as you've just kind of

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hinted at it kind of pulls them in you

327
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know it's steel washers bouncing off

328
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walls and uh coffee Jazz don't get me

329
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wrong I don't suppose they have hundreds

330
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and hundreds of coffee jars but that's

331
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just the examples that they're given and

332
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painting Lids started dropping it it

333
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were all there but

334
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it built in intensity so now light bulbs

335
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they've been the unit and all the lights

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would suddenly go really bright I mean

337
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we've all experienced it in his own home

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just before a light goes

339
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and all power will be cooked to the unit

340
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but what was interesting was the radio

341
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which was plugged into the three pin

342
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socket not on batteries continued to

343
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play all things that but quite honestly

344
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are impossible aren't they but that's

345
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what the insist was happening uh

346
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Wendy were going out this is 96 now so

347
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June July and August of 96 when they

348
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would go out to their vehicles on a

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night whatever time 11 o'clock one

350
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morning not on All Occasions but there'd

351
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be small piles of gravel on the Bonnets

352
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of the vehicles

353
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little little pyramids of gravel which

354
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they couldn't explain they couldn't I

355
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mean it could have been somebody playing

356
00:13:27,769 --> 00:13:25,740
a prank people you know I'm not we're

357
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not attributing everything to

358
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unexplained phenomena because they had

359
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started telling people about this yeah

360
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you know so somebody somebody might have

361
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thought yeah let's wind these guys up a

362
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little bit I don't know uh they're not

363
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internet that well so they came out to

364
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the vehicles one night and this huge

365
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animal prints

366
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from the back of the car over the roof

367
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on the bonnet bipedal Prince Canada

368
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don't make sense but it's all mixed in

369
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with the with the sort of I don't know

370
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this such a

371
00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:00,240
bathing of paranormal activity that were

372
00:14:05,690 --> 00:14:03,000
taking place and uh everything's

373
00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:05,700
starting to get thrown thrown around

374
00:14:12,170 --> 00:14:08,220
like I said nobody ever saw anything

375
00:14:14,090 --> 00:14:12,180
actually move so during 1997 Steve

376
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because there's a large

377
00:14:18,410 --> 00:14:16,139
holding area for cars and buses and

378
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lorries at the back and a bit more scrub

379
00:14:23,569 --> 00:14:20,760
land behind that Steve rented some of

380
00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:23,579
that land off to a guy who wanted to

381
00:14:28,430 --> 00:14:26,459
break Caravans up and sell parts kind of

382
00:14:31,129 --> 00:14:28,440
you know Caravan scrap yard for one of a

383
00:14:32,509 --> 00:14:31,139
better word and he rented some land off

384
00:14:35,090 --> 00:14:32,519
and there were a guy who used to sleep

385
00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:35,100
in one of the Caravans well whilst the

386
00:14:38,509 --> 00:14:36,899
clearing this land off and preparing it

387
00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:38,519
making it sort of

388
00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,240
suitable for the job they found a grave

389
00:14:49,370 --> 00:14:44,880
they found a wooden grave marker we

390
00:14:51,290 --> 00:14:49,380
imagine about 24 inch high 15 inch wide

391
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with the inscription of a little girl

392
00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:53,880
none of them remember the name or the

393
00:14:59,329 --> 00:14:56,399
year but the thinking well the 1800s and

394
00:15:02,389 --> 00:14:59,339
they've got this wooden grave marker and

395
00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:02,399
they kind of said they didn't treat it

396
00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:09,050
with any disrespect but do you know what

397
00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:10,920
I mean to me it's important if

398
00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:12,420
somebody's there's somebody buried there

399
00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:14,639
potentially so they brought it into the

400
00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:16,860
workshop their tributed everything that

401
00:15:20,750 --> 00:15:19,320
had happened before to the spirits of

402
00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:20,760
the little girl that led some kind of

403
00:15:24,889 --> 00:15:23,279
poltergeist activity instantly they'd

404
00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:24,899
got something to

405
00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:27,420
focus on and whether it was or not and I

406
00:15:33,949 --> 00:15:31,320
have no idea but uh they even contacted

407
00:15:35,569 --> 00:15:33,959
the local church I've since contacted

408
00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,579
the church and The Undertakers because

409
00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:37,199
they know that their church or The

410
00:15:41,750 --> 00:15:39,839
Undertakers came and took the marker

411
00:15:43,850 --> 00:15:41,760
away uh

412
00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:43,860
they've known knowledge of the people

413
00:15:47,689 --> 00:15:45,600
that I've spoken to at homaby church or

414
00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:47,699
The Undertakers but I mean like we've

415
00:15:54,110 --> 00:15:51,199
said there's a lot of time elapsed so

416
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:54,120
also they also but because all three

417
00:15:58,250 --> 00:15:56,880
lived in Bridlington so the at some

418
00:16:00,769 --> 00:15:58,260
point they've got to drive to humanby

419
00:16:02,329 --> 00:16:00,779
all of them talk about seeing on

420
00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:02,339
occasion

421
00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:05,040
huge flashes of light just literally

422
00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:07,199
Split Second light where the land just

423
00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:09,779
lights up today I don't know they've

424
00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:11,880
actually excuse me experienced that Andy

425
00:16:15,470 --> 00:16:13,620
but we have up at Benton funnily enough

426
00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:15,480
just literally a blink and everything's

427
00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:16,620
daylight I don't know what kind of

428
00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:18,360
energy source can do with that but we

429
00:16:21,889 --> 00:16:19,860
know that sheet lightning could do it

430
00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:21,899
but they'd all talk about experiencing

431
00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:24,420
that not sure if that's connected do you

432
00:16:28,069 --> 00:16:26,220
know just just on that yet one cell

433
00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:28,079
remember in Glasgow uh I was playing

434
00:16:33,290 --> 00:16:31,320
football one night at was maybe 13 14

435
00:16:35,629 --> 00:16:33,300
kind of edge uh if anyone knows the

436
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:35,639
idiot drum Chapel near near Cana where I

437
00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:39,360
stayed in the West End of Glasgow and um

438
00:16:44,749 --> 00:16:41,820
I remember it being a very clear sky

439
00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:44,759
not really any clouds at all about and

440
00:16:48,530 --> 00:16:46,620
there was just a big flash in the sky

441
00:16:50,749 --> 00:16:48,540
and it was night time so you know it

442
00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:50,759
shouldn't have been uh like you say

443
00:16:55,730 --> 00:16:52,860
almost like someone camera flash up in

444
00:16:57,170 --> 00:16:55,740
the clock up in the sky right gone that

445
00:16:58,910 --> 00:16:57,180
was it and I remember just looking about

446
00:17:02,090 --> 00:16:58,920
for just a couple of seconds I Was

447
00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:02,100
Myself yeah and yeah that was really

448
00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:04,140
strange that was odd but what can you do

449
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,220
like you know you can't because the the

450
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,600
doubt is being documented I mean it may

451
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:11,280
have been picked up on CCTV or something

452
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:13,199
we all cameras we've got now but who can

453
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,160
say

454
00:17:18,289 --> 00:17:16,559
so we've got these flashes these unusual

455
00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:18,299
flashes over these this three-year

456
00:17:23,150 --> 00:17:21,720
period Dave the younger one when when we

457
00:17:25,370 --> 00:17:23,160
sat and spoke because I spoke to them

458
00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:25,380
all I spoke to Andrew more than the

459
00:17:29,630 --> 00:17:27,000
other two have spoke to Dave and I spoke

460
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:29,640
to the boss Steve was would call him

461
00:17:33,950 --> 00:17:32,160
Dave said that I've also got memories of

462
00:17:35,930 --> 00:17:33,960
driving to the unit

463
00:17:37,850 --> 00:17:35,940
but I have no memories and seen these

464
00:17:39,409 --> 00:17:37,860
flashes of light but have no memories of

465
00:17:42,049 --> 00:17:39,419
actually working there

466
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,059
I've just got memories of driving back

467
00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:43,919
and it doesn't mean like he's got lots

468
00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:45,900
of these but he's he's just aware of it

469
00:17:50,450 --> 00:17:47,640
it's a niggling little thing that that

470
00:17:52,130 --> 00:17:50,460
that's kind of stayed with him and his

471
00:17:53,930 --> 00:17:52,140
mum and dad were coming throughout this

472
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,940
period of time because I think that this

473
00:17:58,130 --> 00:17:55,919
is important because as we progress

474
00:18:01,370 --> 00:17:58,140
through hummingbird you'll well you will

475
00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,380
see why so this started this in the end

476
00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:03,360
they stopped telling people about what

477
00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:04,980
was happening it were interesting at

478
00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:08,039
first it were kind of edgy and and

479
00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:10,700
exciting when things happened but

480
00:18:15,169 --> 00:18:12,960
obviously they started to get a bit of a

481
00:18:17,210 --> 00:18:15,179
ridicule they've got at local Builders

482
00:18:19,610 --> 00:18:17,220
not Builders Merchants suppliers for the

483
00:18:21,289 --> 00:18:19,620
car components and things and you know

484
00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:21,299
they were getting a little bit of stick

485
00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:23,580
for for what were happening so nobody

486
00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:26,400
believed them basically uh and as I say

487
00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:27,780
I spoke to the guys at the bus depot

488
00:18:31,250 --> 00:18:29,400
probably about two or three years ago on

489
00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:31,260
this one old chap that still works there

490
00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:34,440
who remembers it so

491
00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:35,100
um

492
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,679
one occasion that sat in front of her we

493
00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:39,360
will get to the UFO people I would

494
00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:41,580
promise you but there's I think we just

495
00:18:44,990 --> 00:18:43,320
need to build up one occasion they're

496
00:18:48,409 --> 00:18:45,000
all sat in there's three of them sat in

497
00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:48,419
the front of a Motorway pickup truck one

498
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:49,980
that they're planning on doing some work

499
00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:52,559
on and the owner of the truck was is

500
00:18:55,690 --> 00:18:54,059
telling them I suppose what he wants he

501
00:18:57,890 --> 00:18:55,700
wants his sign writing and this and that

502
00:18:59,690 --> 00:18:57,900
and suddenly

503
00:19:01,730 --> 00:18:59,700
there's cracks on the side of the

504
00:19:03,230 --> 00:19:01,740
building inside not on the outsides he

505
00:19:04,490 --> 00:19:03,240
asks what it is this is the kind of

506
00:19:06,110 --> 00:19:04,500
thing they were telling people they said

507
00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:06,120
they're just jokingly said it's the

508
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:08,280
Poltergeist this guy just looks at them

509
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:10,080
they don't lose business through it but

510
00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:13,200
you know and that's how the word got out

511
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,240
there's there's another ridiculous

512
00:19:19,490 --> 00:19:17,760
example that they had an mg Roadster in

513
00:19:21,710 --> 00:19:19,500
for some work

514
00:19:24,590 --> 00:19:21,720
and they're all doing their jobs

515
00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:24,600
and it started on its own

516
00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:26,820
this is we're all just mesmerized it

517
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:28,740
there's no one else in the unit and this

518
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:31,919
cars started up the keys are in it but

519
00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:34,080
it started and it's just not possible as

520
00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:35,820
you know

521
00:19:42,770 --> 00:19:40,020
Steve the boss walks over to it

522
00:19:44,930 --> 00:19:42,780
turns off the engine or tries to touch

523
00:19:46,730 --> 00:19:44,940
the keys up he says it's still running

524
00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:46,740
they pull the bonnet

525
00:19:50,930 --> 00:19:49,020
and just move the pull the plug leads

526
00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:50,940
and the thing stops and I know there's

527
00:19:54,890 --> 00:19:52,740
going to be people listening to this and

528
00:19:58,250 --> 00:19:54,900
saying well that's just a load of

529
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,260
rubbish for want of a better word and uh

530
00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:00,960
but this is what I'm told all three men

531
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:02,760
have told me this story of the mg

532
00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:05,520
Roadster he says we were kind of shocked

533
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:08,160
got there another morning and the guy

534
00:20:12,289 --> 00:20:10,559
who lives The gales breaks Caravans in

535
00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:12,299
the back of the you at the back of the

536
00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:14,700
units somebody sleeps there

537
00:20:18,169 --> 00:20:16,380
and he's having an argument with Steve

538
00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:18,179
they said we not morning this will be

539
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:19,740
evening he says we get to do our jobs

540
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,840
and this guy's arguing

541
00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:24,000
and there's the vehicles that are packed

542
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:26,520
at the back of the compound and is

543
00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:28,559
telling him that the radials are coming

544
00:20:33,529 --> 00:20:30,539
on on the night in during the night the

545
00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:33,539
horns are beeping and he's moaning at

546
00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:35,640
Stephen saying like you know the your

547
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,460
responsibility this needs to stop and he

548
00:20:41,810 --> 00:20:40,320
pulled the bonnets the taking batteries

549
00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:41,820
out to stop

550
00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:44,340
people you know to stop people uh

551
00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:47,820
obviously stealing the batteries so

552
00:20:52,490 --> 00:20:50,220
it fell out with this guy and there's no

553
00:20:54,590 --> 00:20:52,500
batteries in he obviously no explanation

554
00:20:57,529 --> 00:20:54,600
for for what we're happening with this

555
00:21:00,289 --> 00:20:57,539
sort of paranormal coating that sort of

556
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:00,299
it's everywhere with around this unit

557
00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:01,760
once again

558
00:21:07,130 --> 00:21:05,120
1997 everything seemed to come to a stop

559
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,140
carried on as normal

560
00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:09,200
we get to June

561
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:13,020
1998. now just also need to note that

562
00:21:19,970 --> 00:21:16,559
June through writing the truth-proof

563
00:21:23,210 --> 00:21:19,980
book Sunday I've highlighted that June

564
00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:23,220
seems to come up in a lot of sightings

565
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:25,880
and experiences

566
00:21:30,049 --> 00:21:28,559
you know you know we've got aircraft

567
00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:30,059
that have gone down in June we know

568
00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:32,100
these are tragedies and we we should we

569
00:21:36,110 --> 00:21:34,200
we're not attributing them to UFO

570
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:36,120
phenomena or anything but it's worth

571
00:21:44,690 --> 00:21:41,760
noting so June 1998 the these this still

572
00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:44,700
sort of I don't know contemplating now

573
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:45,900
whether it's all going to start again

574
00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:48,720
and it does begin and

575
00:21:52,909 --> 00:21:50,700
they're believing that The Headstone the

576
00:21:54,649 --> 00:21:52,919
grave marker is somehow responsible just

577
00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:54,659
like the previous years the washers are

578
00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:56,820
flying about but now they're getting

579
00:22:02,450 --> 00:21:57,900
money

580
00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:02,460
as the walking are about in front of

581
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,400
them gravel is falling in front of them

582
00:22:09,649 --> 00:22:07,440
remember there's no second floor on

583
00:22:13,310 --> 00:22:09,659
first floor on this unit it's just a

584
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,320
ground floor the only the only elevated

585
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:15,360
building is the tiny office in the

586
00:22:20,029 --> 00:22:17,760
bottom right hand corner so there's

587
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:20,039
nobody up there leaning over and

588
00:22:25,549 --> 00:22:23,520
dropping things and uh the radio would

589
00:22:28,490 --> 00:22:25,559
suddenly go very loud and start changing

590
00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:28,500
channels and I mean it could be a faulty

591
00:22:32,570 --> 00:22:31,020
radio you know I don't know but all of

592
00:22:34,730 --> 00:22:32,580
these things are happening so on top of

593
00:22:36,049 --> 00:22:34,740
the washers flying about the steel

594
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:36,059
washers

595
00:22:40,909 --> 00:22:38,400
excuse me the nuts and bolts and the

596
00:22:42,409 --> 00:22:40,919
coffee jars that's dropping in front of

597
00:22:43,549 --> 00:22:42,419
them and painting Lids we've got money

598
00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:43,559
and

599
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:45,720
they decided to put the grave marker

600
00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:47,940
outside

601
00:22:56,270 --> 00:22:54,360
the shutter doors and whilst they're

602
00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:56,280
working away they hear what they

603
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,159
perceive was somebody the sound almost

604
00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:01,679
like somebody using a baseball bat to

605
00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:05,640
hit the huge shutter doors Bang Bang

606
00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:08,220
and they go to investigate what's

607
00:23:13,490 --> 00:23:09,960
happening because obviously these doors

608
00:23:16,029 --> 00:23:13,500
are shut and the grave markers inside

609
00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:16,039
all three men

610
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,900
swear that they never brought it in and

611
00:23:23,890 --> 00:23:20,880
all three men have told me this story

612
00:23:26,810 --> 00:23:23,900
and and there's a lot of things that

613
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,820
connected to it that they they could

614
00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:28,799
have really omitted because it doesn't

615
00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:32,700
bring loads of valid validation to a UFO

616
00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:35,340
story but they're they're saying it and

617
00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:37,020
I think I'd be I'm not going to cherry

618
00:23:43,070 --> 00:23:40,140
pick just to make it fit a UFO landing

619
00:23:45,649 --> 00:23:43,080
I'm I'm gonna give people the the full

620
00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:45,659
story of what people told me because

621
00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:47,280
there's too many people want to just

622
00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:49,020
just let's just make it fit that

623
00:23:53,149 --> 00:23:51,720
narrative let's just unfold it and I

624
00:23:55,789 --> 00:23:53,159
hope people can bear with me long enough

625
00:23:57,409 --> 00:23:55,799
because it just you know it it it's it

626
00:23:59,810 --> 00:23:57,419
does get interesting so the drive Mark

627
00:24:01,549 --> 00:23:59,820
has now moved allegedly from in outside

628
00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:01,559
to inside

629
00:24:05,289 --> 00:24:03,240
there's another time Andrew's working on

630
00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:05,299
an open topped bus that's in the unit

631
00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:07,860
suddenly all of the lights go bright in

632
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,880
the unit and it as the lights burst and

633
00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:13,440
the power goes out because some of the

634
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,580
bulbs burst

635
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,559
the strip light in the top

636
00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:18,240
up in the ceiling dropped into the top

637
00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:19,980
of the open topmost could be just

638
00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:21,780
coincidence but interesting and

639
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:24,299
interestingly enough power's gone the

640
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:27,360
radio continues to play as I say I

641
00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:28,799
called the church I spoke to The

642
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:31,020
Undertakers because they don't know

643
00:24:33,529 --> 00:24:32,159
whether it were the church or The

644
00:24:36,110 --> 00:24:33,539
Undertakers that came and took the grave

645
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,120
marker away but all three men say that

646
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,220
you know in the end they did because

647
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:40,080
they wanted they they thought this one

648
00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:41,880
ghostly activity Poltergeist type

649
00:24:45,529 --> 00:24:43,380
activity

650
00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:45,539
so I they told me that they thought it

651
00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:46,919
had been buried in grounds of home and

652
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,980
be church but I've I've spoke at length

653
00:24:53,450 --> 00:24:51,659
I've been to humanby church I've looked

654
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:53,460
for any indication of it there's I can't

655
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:55,860
find nothing and I did my considerable

656
00:24:58,850 --> 00:24:57,240
inquiries

657
00:25:02,630 --> 00:24:58,860
so we've got all types of unexplained

658
00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:02,640
phenomena presenting is it a poltergeist

659
00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:05,880
or or or did the phenomena sort of allow

660
00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:07,860
many types of unexplained phenomena to

661
00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:09,720
present or was it one thing

662
00:25:15,169 --> 00:25:12,360
a trickster kind of elements I don't I

663
00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:15,179
really don't know oh everything seems

664
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:17,100
detached from

665
00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:19,679
from the other you know the the

666
00:25:24,970 --> 00:25:22,500
footprints on a car the the gravel

667
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:24,980
falling the money falling so anyway

668
00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:27,600
Steve's the only one there on one

669
00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:29,880
particular night the others the two all

670
00:25:33,169 --> 00:25:31,620
work for him have gone home

671
00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:33,179
and he's locking up in the early hours

672
00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:35,100
of the morning and back then like I said

673
00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:37,020
there's only three or four units down

674
00:25:41,149 --> 00:25:39,000
there and it's pretty it's on Egypt

675
00:25:42,529 --> 00:25:41,159
village now it's pretty remote now but

676
00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:42,539
he said

677
00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:44,760
just bolting get that lock in the gates

678
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:46,679
he said I turned round he said and just

679
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:49,080
went back to the fence he said in the

680
00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:52,080
darkness but close to me there's a huge

681
00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:53,159
figure

682
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:55,260
and he said that we're looking like

683
00:26:00,289 --> 00:25:57,720
seven or eight foot tall black shape

684
00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:00,299
huge head your shoulders once again

685
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,760
don't conform to a to what what people

686
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,039
would typically expect of what which on

687
00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:07,440
the home and be landing he said now just

688
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,140
took a huge breath gasby said I can't

689
00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:11,760
see eyes I can't see anything I just

690
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:13,260
they suddenly just turned away and

691
00:26:19,090 --> 00:26:15,720
walked into darkness another strange

692
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,100
occurrence that probably a lot of UFO

693
00:26:24,169 --> 00:26:22,320
researchers would omit and get to the

694
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,179
let's get to the UFO because that's all

695
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,400
we want to deal with but you know it I

696
00:26:30,769 --> 00:26:28,559
think there's a lot of cases

697
00:26:32,930 --> 00:26:30,779
the of Cherry Picked and we're probably

698
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:32,940
missing important details by not talking

699
00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:34,980
about these kind of things as well well

700
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:37,140
let me say Paul just before you go on a

701
00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:38,760
lot of what you have talked about if

702
00:26:41,870 --> 00:26:40,260
people are familiar with Skinwalker

703
00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:41,880
Ranch sounds like it's right out of

704
00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:43,559
those early investigations with the

705
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,140
Ned's team and Bob Bigelow because they

706
00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:48,720
talked about Paranormal Activity Brandon

707
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,760
Frugal the owner now and the crew and

708
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,799
cast that are involved talk about things

709
00:26:56,930 --> 00:26:54,960
being moved about it's not just the UFOs

710
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,940
you know they've talked about Porto's

711
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,559
opening up creatures crawling out

712
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:01,200
strange wolf type creatures you know

713
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:05,279
again not classic UFO stuff but all

714
00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:07,320
activity that is going on around what is

715
00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:09,179
you know largely considered a paranormal

716
00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:11,460
hotbed when it comes to activity and

717
00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:12,840
then also some people hate using the

718
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:15,179
term paranormal and maybe a derogatory

719
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,460
way but it's just it's just potentially

720
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,200
a normal that we don't understand it

721
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,600
yeah I would agree and I think that

722
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,240
eventually Andy science is going to

723
00:27:29,409 --> 00:27:27,120
understand all of these things it still

724
00:27:33,289 --> 00:27:29,419
might take us into the Realms of the woo

725
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,299
but but but science probably will catch

726
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:35,760
up I don't mean catch up fully although

727
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:38,220
it might do but I think it's gonna you

728
00:27:41,149 --> 00:27:39,539
know it's I don't think it's hot on the

729
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:41,159
eels of whatever it is that's presenting

730
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:43,740
but we're getting more and more sort of

731
00:27:49,850 --> 00:27:46,980
insights into what's happening one more

732
00:27:51,409 --> 00:27:49,860
one more thing and if anyone's noticed

733
00:27:52,909 --> 00:27:51,419
if they're watching this on YouTube I've

734
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:52,919
been making some notes at the side just

735
00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:54,600
while you've been talking that and I

736
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,220
actually drew a sketch very quickly of

737
00:27:59,570 --> 00:27:57,840
the area just to remind myself as well

738
00:28:00,769 --> 00:27:59,580
when I'm when I'm doing it

739
00:28:03,169 --> 00:28:00,779
um

740
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,179
it was at any coordinating events we're

741
00:28:09,169 --> 00:28:06,240
looking at 96 97 98 June to August each

742
00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:09,179
time in or around that area that were

743
00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:12,179
maybe similar yes oh definitely

744
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,700
definitely and and as I said like I said

745
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:16,320
I've made some notes and as I've come

746
00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:17,520
through to the end of it I don't know

747
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,039
what time we've got I'm gonna sort of

748
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,559
include a few correlated events so as

749
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:24,480
you know that you've been a forethought

750
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:28,080
there thank you and uh so we're in 1998

751
00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:29,940
June July and August everything seems to

752
00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:32,840
come come like come come on help me

753
00:28:39,409 --> 00:28:34,940
Colony

754
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:39,419
yeah in August and uh yeah some good

755
00:28:44,269 --> 00:28:41,940
words Anna so Andrew starts getting

756
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:44,279
clever with the phenomena starts getting

757
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:47,760
cocky it's it's become

758
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:50,460
almost a normality that things are

759
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:52,260
happening Dave's mum and Dad's

760
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:53,220
experiencing them they're all

761
00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:55,140
experiencing it and this isn't like when

762
00:28:59,930 --> 00:28:57,419
we are going to Benton and we're looking

763
00:29:01,549 --> 00:28:59,940
for signs of unexplained phenomena and

764
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,559
we might just get a hit on something in

765
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:03,840
six months or a year incidentally we did

766
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:06,240
get a hit on something this Tuesday an

767
00:29:09,649 --> 00:29:07,620
absolutely incredible sighting which

768
00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:09,659
I've got a bit of stuff on film but this

769
00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:11,880
that's rare this is happening every week

770
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,480
this is happening on a regular basis so

771
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:17,760
Dave's asking

772
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:20,640
give me some money that I can spend if

773
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:22,140
you're all so powerful and you're

774
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:24,000
shouting at it you're shouting into the

775
00:29:27,470 --> 00:29:25,320
workshop

776
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:27,480
give me the lottery numbers

777
00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:29,820
if you're all so powerful and Steve's

778
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:32,340
warning him the boss stop taunting it

779
00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:33,960
stop you don't know what you're dealing

780
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:37,580
with stop you know sort of maybe

781
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,020
aggravating the phenomena we I don't

782
00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:42,000
think they were calling it phenomena but

783
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:43,620
uh stop aggravating it and I think

784
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:46,320
Andrew uh sorry David echoed the same

785
00:29:50,029 --> 00:29:47,279
words

786
00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:50,039
and uh but it won't it won't stop it's

787
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:51,480
annoying when they get a crack of a

788
00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:53,820
washer and it drops he's shouting out as

789
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:56,460
though it's it is just sick of it that's

790
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,380
Andrew's words as I say because I've got

791
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:01,440
extensive recordings voice recordings of

792
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,559
of Dave and Andrew have none of Steve uh

793
00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:06,480
but that's his words he says we just

794
00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:09,240
became sick of it in the end you know it

795
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,740
always took you by surprise you never

796
00:30:13,850 --> 00:30:12,240
knew when it was going to happen but

797
00:30:15,649 --> 00:30:13,860
when it happened just kind of jumped and

798
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,659
then you as it I used to just curse it I

799
00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:18,000
used to just swear at it and ask it to

800
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:19,620
give me some like I said the lottery

801
00:30:24,409 --> 00:30:21,840
numbers give me some money I can spend

802
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,419
he said and then suddenly this is what

803
00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:26,399
Dave and Steve said to me said we we

804
00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:28,020
heard a scream

805
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,460
and we looked and there's Andrew

806
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:31,919
spinning round on the floor holding his

807
00:30:36,889 --> 00:30:34,380
head saying I've been hit I've been hit

808
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:36,899
he says and we're kind of thinking

809
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:38,460
what's what's going off here

810
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:40,500
he says and he took his hands away and

811
00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:42,059
there's a coin

812
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:45,000
like stuck to his forehead I asked if it

813
00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:47,100
were hot and all said it weren't hot

814
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:49,380
so he took it away and there's a there's

815
00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:50,820
a round circle

816
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:52,860
which didn't go away in half an hour it

817
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:55,260
stayed in a round circle on his head for

818
00:30:59,870 --> 00:30:57,360
a day or two so I spoke to Andrew about

819
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,880
it because they told me this and he said

820
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:01,919
oh yeah yeah he said I said I've been

821
00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:04,200
like getting clever with whatever it was

822
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:05,940
it says and I just looked up he said and

823
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:07,380
the strange thing what

824
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:09,419
he said it were coming to me in slow

825
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:12,120
motion it says but I could see Full

826
00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:16,140
Circle not the side yeah isn't it just

827
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:18,539
it me and Ed he said it's stung like mad

828
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:20,220
and he says now just trapped my head and

829
00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:22,860
I was like screamed out in pain

830
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:25,620
sudden that basically that's that's what

831
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,679
happened so for taunting the phenomena

832
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:30,840
so

833
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:35,520
we're probably getting to what you UFO

834
00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:38,820
people listeners want to hear about so

835
00:31:45,169 --> 00:31:42,179
the triangles appeared this is this is

836
00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:45,179
August 1998 there's one night in August

837
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,820
1998 Steve the boss he stood outside

838
00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:49,440
having a cigarette

839
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:51,899
with a couple of guys from the uh the

840
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:54,480
bus Breakers or the bus restorers I

841
00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:56,100
don't know what it was back then I beat

842
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:57,720
when I bent down to it you can see old

843
00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:00,659
type coaches in there even today so I

844
00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:02,520
don't know obviously they either sell

845
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,860
parts or restore cultures and they're

846
00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:06,240
having a cigarette and I think this guy

847
00:32:12,370 --> 00:32:08,580
who's passed away Alan was there as well

848
00:32:15,950 --> 00:32:12,380
and as that as they stood outside just

849
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:15,960
unpolluted Sky only three or four units

850
00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:16,860
there

851
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:19,020
two and a half miles looking forward

852
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,460
you're going to be in the North Sea

853
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:21,840
you're gonna you're gonna be at home and

854
00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:22,799
be Gap

855
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:24,360
so then we're looking out to see they

856
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:26,039
can't see the sea they're in a bit of a

857
00:32:31,130 --> 00:32:28,980
dip he said in Starfield night and I

858
00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:31,140
become aware of three

859
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:34,140
huge black triangle shapes no lights on

860
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:37,140
them coming towards us blocking out all

861
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:39,240
the stars he said they're not that high

862
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:42,360
in the sky but the huge monstrously huge

863
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,580
everybody's looking at it that from

864
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:46,799
Andrew and Dave or inside working but

865
00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:48,600
since we're watching these things coming

866
00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:49,500
over

867
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:52,020
we just get we're just Jaws have dropped

868
00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:53,520
he said I can't believe it and just

869
00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:55,740
before they get over the top of us and

870
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:57,960
the solid black shapes that are totally

871
00:33:01,370 --> 00:32:59,279
silent

872
00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:01,380
no lights and we think we're going to

873
00:33:04,909 --> 00:33:03,000
get a fabulous view as they actually get

874
00:33:06,769 --> 00:33:04,919
over top

875
00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:06,779
they've gone

876
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,820
whether they've camouflaged themselves

877
00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:10,679
whether they've become aware and it's

878
00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:13,080
some stealth technology that can I don't

879
00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:15,419
know I talk in toothproof one about the

880
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,220
into mind connection

881
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:19,440
where people's yeah I don't know see

882
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,480
there's a rock angle is perfect example

883
00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:23,039
Andrew just to draw from this for a

884
00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:24,659
moment where he's on the cliff tops and

885
00:33:29,930 --> 00:33:26,580
he sees what he perceives to be an

886
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,940
unusually bright star out over the sea

887
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,679
one that he doesn't recognize you think

888
00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:33,840
oh no see that one is he said no sooner

889
00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:35,580
had I looked at this what I thought were

890
00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:38,340
a bright star and it's above my head

891
00:33:43,149 --> 00:33:40,679
he said obviously not a star he says in

892
00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:43,159
the ground's lit up like like a welder's

893
00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:46,260
kind of intensity all the blades of

894
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:48,600
grass look sharp silver and then as fast

895
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:50,760
as it's arrived it's gone the intermined

896
00:33:54,889 --> 00:33:52,260
connection I think some kind of

897
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:54,899
connection there had taken place

898
00:34:00,049 --> 00:33:57,840
so this thing they got over top of them

899
00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:00,059
and it simply vanished

900
00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:02,820
that this is all around the time that

901
00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:04,740
this incident happened they talked about

902
00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:06,539
it they were talking

903
00:34:10,369 --> 00:34:08,040
quite excitedly when he went into

904
00:34:12,829 --> 00:34:10,379
Workshop about just seen these two sorry

905
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:12,839
these three huge triangles

906
00:34:16,849 --> 00:34:14,580
I don't know what time amount of time

907
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,859
elapsed whether it were the next day or

908
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,720
whether it were during that week but

909
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:21,119
it's all very close and Dave there's a

910
00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:22,740
bit of confusion whether Dave's mum and

911
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:25,260
dad had gone home

912
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,179
and then come back after something that

913
00:34:31,490 --> 00:34:28,800
happened which we will get to or whether

914
00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:31,500
they were actually arriving to the to

915
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,960
the to see their son and the other other

916
00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:35,040
guys

917
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,300
um because they always went home

918
00:34:41,530 --> 00:34:38,399
apparently in between eight o'clock and

919
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:41,540
ten o'clock so we think these guys

920
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:46,560
they're not sure of the exact times so

921
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:48,599
Dave and dad are involved in in what

922
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:50,580
happened next they won't speak about it

923
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:53,700
uh Dave approached his mum to see if she

924
00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:56,700
would talk to me and he said she's just

925
00:35:01,970 --> 00:34:59,339
a few a few he said about from a few

926
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:01,980
days after what happened to him they've

927
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,780
never they'll not speak about it to

928
00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:06,000
point to being quite upset and cross

929
00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:07,740
sure so

930
00:35:12,589 --> 00:35:10,260
they all saw something incredible just

931
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:12,599
so we'll go through Andrew Dave and

932
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:15,000
Steve as as I interviewed them all

933
00:35:18,589 --> 00:35:16,320
separately

934
00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:18,599
and Andrew says on this particular night

935
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,180
this is after the triangles

936
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:23,520
a few nights passed he said the roller

937
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,380
shutter doors are up about six or seven

938
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:27,119
foot and we can see down into the

939
00:35:31,069 --> 00:35:28,980
compound

940
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:31,079
a few cars in but it's not it's not over

941
00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,980
full he says I found myself stood at the

942
00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:37,140
doors at the bottom of the compound

943
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:39,420
looking down he said knock out he said

944
00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:40,260
I'm

945
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:43,619
I don't know probably 30 yards away he

946
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:46,200
said I can see mist

947
00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:48,960
about four foot off the ground and he he

948
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,720
used the SAT it covered the area he said

949
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:53,760
of a flat back

950
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,859
truck one that you'd everybody May

951
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,540
imagine where you could put a car on and

952
00:36:02,510 --> 00:35:59,520
drive off with if you've got a breakdown

953
00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:02,520
that that kind of size flat back pickup

954
00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:05,460
truck and the typical mechanic type guys

955
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:07,260
to give you that example into it but

956
00:36:10,609 --> 00:36:08,460
that's what they did

957
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,619
he said I can't believe what I'm looking

958
00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:12,960
at he says and first of all he said I

959
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,520
can hear helicopters but I don't think

960
00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:16,079
that helicopters because it's bright and

961
00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:17,460
I can't see anything

962
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,800
it's bright night clear night and I

963
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:21,839
can't see anything above me but I can

964
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:23,460
hear this sound

965
00:36:27,890 --> 00:36:26,700
and I'm attributing it to helicopters

966
00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:27,900
but it doesn't

967
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:29,460
actually sound like an helicopter it's

968
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:30,660
like a humming

969
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:33,359
so we've got that one so he said I'm

970
00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:35,339
looking down the compound and and this

971
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:37,020
is where he gets all weird when I've sat

972
00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:38,460
in Andrew's kitchen and he's telling me

973
00:36:43,310 --> 00:36:40,680
this he said it can't have been true

974
00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:43,320
he said I think it were a film set

975
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:45,780
he said he said that there's there's a

976
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:47,400
what above the Mist there's what you

977
00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:52,079
would call a typical 1960s Flying Saucer

978
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:54,839
this isn't there's like a glass Dome on

979
00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:55,800
it

980
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:57,480
and there's this look and I can see

981
00:37:00,170 --> 00:36:58,800
Andrew saying it to me now and he says

982
00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:00,180
there's this little thing inside it I

983
00:37:02,329 --> 00:37:01,560
can see it's black outline and it's

984
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:02,339
looking

985
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,500
or moving about he said I can see it he

986
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:06,480
said and all the time Andrew saying to

987
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,160
me says it's got to have been a film set

988
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:10,320
he said it just I'd never it was so

989
00:37:14,329 --> 00:37:11,940
surreal I've never seen all like it he

990
00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:14,339
says and there's there's lights flashing

991
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:16,520
in the mist and all sorts of strange

992
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:21,000
electrical cracks and this thing's there

993
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,460
then it gets weird he said because then

994
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:25,440
I find myself walking through the unit

995
00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:27,540
to the front

996
00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:30,300
and not the double not the roller

997
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:32,460
shutters that they're shut the side door

998
00:37:36,349 --> 00:37:34,980
it says they opened the side door I

999
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:36,359
think he said he was looking for Steve

1000
00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:38,940
which will be that let me just go back

1001
00:37:43,730 --> 00:37:40,980
drawback a bit people he said I saw

1002
00:37:47,329 --> 00:37:43,740
Steve walking down to the Mist

1003
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:47,339
and he disappeared into it mist

1004
00:37:52,609 --> 00:37:49,980
and he said I'm kind of really confused

1005
00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:52,619
he said I found myself walking to the

1006
00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:55,859
front but I'm looking for Steve

1007
00:37:59,150 --> 00:37:57,960
probably it could be that he can't

1008
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,160
believe what he's just seen and he

1009
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,200
thinks is he up here I don't know he

1010
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:02,880
said and I opened the side door he said

1011
00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:03,720
and

1012
00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:05,240
uh a

1013
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:08,220
soldier one soldier dressed in black

1014
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:12,180
from head to toe and grabs hold of him

1015
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:15,480
drags him inside swearing and cursing at

1016
00:38:20,329 --> 00:38:17,760
him drops him to the floor tells him to

1017
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:20,339
stay where he is don't move on a few

1018
00:38:23,810 --> 00:38:21,960
Choice words and if you know what's good

1019
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,820
for your kind of thing yeah he says and

1020
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,200
I did that he said oh frightened he says

1021
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,119
he were a real nasty piece of work God

1022
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:29,520
that's what he appeared full no face

1023
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:33,180
showing everything's black yeah so

1024
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:36,480
next I speak to uh let's just just move

1025
00:38:42,349 --> 00:38:38,940
a bit of paper here people next I speak

1026
00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:42,359
to Andrew on his own I spoke to him all

1027
00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:44,099
on their own and I need to stress as

1028
00:38:48,050 --> 00:38:46,020
well that there's in the years that have

1029
00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:48,060
passed Andrew and Dave have kept in

1030
00:38:54,770 --> 00:38:50,940
touch but not as regular weekly friends

1031
00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:54,780
or even monthly friends and Steve we had

1032
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:57,660
to we had to search for Steve do you

1033
00:39:00,410 --> 00:38:58,560
know what I mean so it's not like

1034
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,420
they've all got together and put the

1035
00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:01,920
Reds together I mean these guys now are

1036
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:04,380
in the 60s and well Dave will be in his

1037
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:07,140
late 40s so

1038
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,820
I asked Andrew

1039
00:39:12,589 --> 00:39:10,800
basically I don't want I didn't want to

1040
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,599
lead him but I just we'd gone through

1041
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:14,160
all the story he'd just about give me

1042
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:15,480
everything that I've described to you

1043
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,480
guys today so that even to the

1044
00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:20,880
the the light that fell into the open

1045
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,920
top boss everything he'd give me a cab

1046
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,200
and copy of what Andrew had said really

1047
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:27,599
and and I said well what about this

1048
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:30,420
object that Andrew seen in the Mist he

1049
00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:32,339
said well he said I was stood looking

1050
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:33,720
out of the

1051
00:39:37,930 --> 00:39:36,720
Workshop down onto the compound but none

1052
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:37,940
of them say they were stuck together

1053
00:39:43,329 --> 00:39:41,160
which I find fascinating but it's it's

1054
00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:43,339
an um

1055
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:46,619
he said I'll give you that he said there

1056
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,260
was something there he said I couldn't

1057
00:39:55,550 --> 00:39:51,599
see what Andrew's talking about this

1058
00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:55,560
classic 1960s Flying Saucer he said but

1059
00:40:00,050 --> 00:39:57,300
there's an object there

1060
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:00,060
and it's behind this Mist he said in the

1061
00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:03,180
the electrical bangs and cracks and

1062
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,060
flashes like a welders torch are all

1063
00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:08,160
around it and that's I said well Andrew

1064
00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:10,740
spoke about seeing a being inside it in

1065
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,260
a glass Dome

1066
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:14,880
well he went well

1067
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,160
I saw three of them

1068
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:19,680
they said but they were outside it

1069
00:40:26,089 --> 00:40:23,400
said it's over six foot or about six

1070
00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:26,099
foot and is that Andrew he said they

1071
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:28,260
were taller than me he said they've got

1072
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:30,540
large heads he said if he said I could

1073
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:32,940
only see a black outline of them he said

1074
00:40:36,109 --> 00:40:34,320
but if they've got clothes on it was

1075
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:36,119
something like a wetsuit he said they

1076
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,680
were just they were just nothing to

1077
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:40,079
discernible you know apart from the

1078
00:40:44,450 --> 00:40:41,579
shape

1079
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,460
so we got that from Andrew that uh so

1080
00:40:48,589 --> 00:40:46,800
then Andrew decides he's gonna walk to

1081
00:40:50,690 --> 00:40:48,599
the front of the building and Andrew

1082
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,700
says I could hear what I thought were

1083
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,040
helicopters but

1084
00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:55,200
on reflection I'm thinking they don't

1085
00:40:59,089 --> 00:40:57,660
sound like helicopters but we're just I

1086
00:41:00,290 --> 00:40:59,099
think that's the natural thing that we

1087
00:41:02,089 --> 00:41:00,300
all do as humans we're drawing

1088
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,099
comparisons to closest thing we can

1089
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:04,800
think of yeah you know so he said that

1090
00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:07,200
he's humming so he walks to the front of

1091
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:09,240
the building opens the door

1092
00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:11,940
there's two soldiers waiting for him

1093
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:14,460
armed well the the that's not

1094
00:41:18,349 --> 00:41:15,720
necessarily waiting for Andrew but

1095
00:41:20,329 --> 00:41:18,359
they're there yeah drag him inside the

1096
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,339
same procedure drops him to the floor

1097
00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:22,800
threatens him threatens him to death

1098
00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:25,020
stay where you are

1099
00:41:30,349 --> 00:41:27,780
once again I've got no

1100
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,359
story of the put me away with the put me

1101
00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:32,880
with Andrew Dave does not say they put

1102
00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:38,270
it's almost as though they've forgot

1103
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:40,920
that they're with each other during the

1104
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:43,260
during this experiences of you know what

1105
00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:45,180
it were interesting listening to him so

1106
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:50,050
um

1107
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:53,640
uh Steve apologize people as I spoke to

1108
00:41:59,089 --> 00:41:55,560
Steve I've just in front of myself on my

1109
00:42:02,690 --> 00:41:59,099
notes there and um

1110
00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:02,700
I kept the story of him walking down to

1111
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:04,619
into the Mist till the last thing

1112
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,359
because I didn't know what I was going

1113
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:09,359
to get out of this guy I've we just I

1114
00:42:13,609 --> 00:42:11,640
spoke to him on the phone first of all

1115
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,619
and uh

1116
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,599
he were really upset that I was speaking

1117
00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:18,000
to him and it was told yeah this

1118
00:42:22,690 --> 00:42:19,500
shouldn't be spoken about and this is

1119
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:22,700
genuine this I'm not I'm not even

1120
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:25,680
exaggerating I'll I'll upset this guy

1121
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:27,300
what that I was speaking to him I've had

1122
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,800
a victim in face we are shovel it well

1123
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:30,960
it were absolutely gobsmacked that

1124
00:42:37,370 --> 00:42:34,619
anybody were talking about it so when he

1125
00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:37,380
realized that uh you know I I don't know

1126
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:39,420
I weren't going to disclose his name and

1127
00:42:44,089 --> 00:42:41,220
I just wanted the information and I

1128
00:42:47,089 --> 00:42:44,099
wanted to know if he'd verify what to

1129
00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:47,099
what Andrew and David said things calmed

1130
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:48,599
down and I spoke to him probably for

1131
00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:50,460
about an hour I had another conversation

1132
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:54,060
with him for probably longer and he was

1133
00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:55,500
asking me if I were recording him as

1134
00:43:01,309 --> 00:42:58,260
well which I wasn't and uh

1135
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,319
I've subsequently found out where

1136
00:43:07,849 --> 00:43:04,319
about super based so rather than just

1137
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:07,859
force myself on him a past one day and I

1138
00:43:10,670 --> 00:43:09,240
dropped a copy at first bought through

1139
00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:10,680
letterbox

1140
00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:14,819
uh of a premises not of a home so I left

1141
00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:16,380
it a couple of weeks

1142
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,660
and I went in opened the door of this

1143
00:43:22,970 --> 00:43:21,359
place it's empty there's there's if I

1144
00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:22,980
said where it was and I said what were

1145
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,079
in it people would instantly know where

1146
00:43:29,569 --> 00:43:27,839
this place was so yeah it is is I don't

1147
00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:29,579
mean it's empty of items but it's empty

1148
00:43:32,270 --> 00:43:31,140
there's no there's no customers in and

1149
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:32,280
I'm

1150
00:43:36,829 --> 00:43:34,500
a shouts hello kind of thing and

1151
00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:36,839
somebody's work in the basement he says

1152
00:43:41,089 --> 00:43:39,540
I'll be two minutes and then I'll sure

1153
00:43:42,349 --> 00:43:41,099
enough two minutes later this guy comes

1154
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:42,359
upstairs

1155
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,980
I didn't know me obviously so I

1156
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:46,560
explained who I was and he pulled the

1157
00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:49,560
chair up he says sit down so I I ended

1158
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,260
up having a this very long conversation

1159
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:54,480
you know a few hour conversation with

1160
00:43:58,609 --> 00:43:55,740
this guy and I'd love to talk to him

1161
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,619
again if he gets to listen to this uh

1162
00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:00,240
you know I do want to talk to you again

1163
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,540
but there's more that I want to ask so

1164
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:06,000
it basically give me a carbon copy of

1165
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:07,680
what happened he found himself stood

1166
00:44:13,069 --> 00:44:10,260
looking down the compound

1167
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:13,079
it can see an object in the Mist he

1168
00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:14,700
doesn't know what it is we're not going

1169
00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:16,140
to say a spaceship but you know and

1170
00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:17,400
Andrew were the only one that said

1171
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,560
classic Flying Saucer there's an object

1172
00:44:22,970 --> 00:44:21,119
there

1173
00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:22,980
so I don't know what it is he says I

1174
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,560
don't really want to know what it is you

1175
00:44:29,329 --> 00:44:27,119
know I'm not sure what I'm looking at

1176
00:44:31,490 --> 00:44:29,339
and I said well Andrew said he saw this

1177
00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:31,500
being in the in a dome

1178
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:34,440
sat in this thing Dave said he saw three

1179
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,119
beings

1180
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:38,400
Steve was I saw one

1181
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:41,220
there was one he said and I didn't see

1182
00:44:44,690 --> 00:44:43,020
his head I could just see up to the

1183
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:44,700
shoulders it's because there's Mist all

1184
00:44:48,170 --> 00:44:46,920
around it it's very thin very strange

1185
00:44:50,750 --> 00:44:48,180
looking thing

1186
00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:50,760
so I kind of kept my less my last

1187
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,920
question I said well Andrew

1188
00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:54,540
said at one point he saw you walking

1189
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,280
down into the mist and you just

1190
00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:58,800
disappeared into the mist and he he said

1191
00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:01,380
I have no recollection of that none at

1192
00:45:05,809 --> 00:45:03,540
all and you know I

1193
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:05,819
sorry I can't help you so that's

1194
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:07,260
basically where we're at we haven't done

1195
00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:12,000
yet but that's that's their sightings oh

1196
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:14,579
he walks to the front of the building

1197
00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:17,460
there's guys with opens the door

1198
00:45:22,490 --> 00:45:19,980
military personnel

1199
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,500
in blackhead to toe there must have been

1200
00:45:26,329 --> 00:45:24,000
different because we got three different

1201
00:45:28,010 --> 00:45:26,339
weapons because we've got handguns we've

1202
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,020
got we've just got stuck with standard

1203
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,180
military guns and we've got machine guns

1204
00:45:35,210 --> 00:45:33,119
which I'm assuming are mp5s for that era

1205
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,220
and uh they drop into the floor

1206
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,680
threatening check him about a bit is not

1207
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,599
to go anywhere stay where you are if you

1208
00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:41,760
know what's good for you see I'm jumping

1209
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:43,859
back to Andrew Andrew thought oh that

1210
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,900
was staged for him and he thought the

1211
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:47,520
true UFO event were happening at the

1212
00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:50,040
front it still can't wrap his head

1213
00:45:56,770 --> 00:45:52,440
around what he saw all these years later

1214
00:46:01,849 --> 00:45:59,329
because that's fascinating stuff so far

1215
00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:01,859
listen I'm enjoying it uh and I'm trying

1216
00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:03,900
to wrap my head around some of the some

1217
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:06,180
of the statements as well from Steve's

1218
00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:08,040
point of view when you go in and speak

1219
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:10,020
to him and obviously he was reluctant

1220
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,579
but it sets you down and has that

1221
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:14,160
conversation do you believe that he

1222
00:46:17,809 --> 00:46:16,500
doesn't remember walking into the Mist

1223
00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:17,819
I don't know

1224
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:20,280
if that's as good as I can tell you I

1225
00:46:27,170 --> 00:46:24,960
don't know Andy I really don't know uh

1226
00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:27,180
maybe one maybe somebody there we're a

1227
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:28,260
little bit more aware of what were

1228
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,220
happening

1229
00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:31,140
than than some of the others that's all

1230
00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:33,420
I will say okay there's a lot more to

1231
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,220
this story I mean I've we've got one

1232
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,200
more witness not necessarily attached to

1233
00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:39,119
that compound but there's a witness come

1234
00:46:44,690 --> 00:46:40,500
forward

1235
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:44,700
and uh it it's a mind-boggling kind of

1236
00:46:49,309 --> 00:46:46,980
a set of scenarios that took place over

1237
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:49,319
that three-year period And there's

1238
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,500
probably more more to say that that

1239
00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:54,839
I can't say at the moment let's put it

1240
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,760
that way so

1241
00:47:00,890 --> 00:46:58,800
and that's not me just lying to people

1242
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:00,900
that's just things that I'm just sort of

1243
00:47:05,809 --> 00:47:03,660
bounded I can't talk about at the moment

1244
00:47:07,609 --> 00:47:05,819
so we've got Steve's story and we've

1245
00:47:09,710 --> 00:47:07,619
we've got the gist that all three men

1246
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,720
have been detained and sort of roughed

1247
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,800
up a bit

1248
00:47:15,470 --> 00:47:13,680
for trying to leave the front of the

1249
00:47:16,730 --> 00:47:15,480
building or open that side door at the

1250
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:16,740
front

1251
00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:19,920
as if they're detained will not settle

1252
00:47:24,349 --> 00:47:22,140
for for what period of time an hour two

1253
00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:24,359
hours 30 minutes I don't know but when

1254
00:47:28,609 --> 00:47:25,740
it all ends

1255
00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:28,619
Dave's mum and dad arrive

1256
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:32,040
mum's crying mum's in a right distressed

1257
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,140
State dad's frightened

1258
00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:37,680
and you know I've if Dave what would he

1259
00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:39,420
have been he'd have been in his 20s or

1260
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:41,819
early 20s so mum and dad would have been

1261
00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:44,700
in the 40s 50s maybe back then so

1262
00:47:49,790 --> 00:47:47,160
they're not elderly I don't know anyway

1263
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:49,800
because I'm 60. it's just no but you

1264
00:47:56,809 --> 00:47:54,300
know what I mean so sure frightened so

1265
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,819
they get this is before they've spoke

1266
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:58,319
about God you're not going to believe

1267
00:48:01,010 --> 00:47:59,700
what's just happened what we've just

1268
00:48:02,930 --> 00:48:01,020
experienced

1269
00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:02,940
they said the driving now this is the

1270
00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:04,380
bit we can't get whether they're driving

1271
00:48:08,329 --> 00:48:06,119
home

1272
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:08,339
and this happened to him or whether they

1273
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:09,480
were driving

1274
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:11,940
to meet son and them too this is what I

1275
00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:14,579
touched on earlier but but just gather

1276
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,980
the story as they're driving and we

1277
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:18,960
believe that it's on the way home and

1278
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:20,520
they came back

1279
00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:23,880
uh because they can't remember times as

1280
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,280
they're driving they just get between

1281
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,319
anybody wants to Google Earth these

1282
00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:30,240
locations people they're not busy

1283
00:48:34,849 --> 00:48:32,760
Metropolis is the middle of nowhere so

1284
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:34,859
you you will easily find these roads so

1285
00:48:38,990 --> 00:48:36,720
if you find the road going out of on

1286
00:48:42,050 --> 00:48:39,000
Monday and head towards Bridlington

1287
00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:42,060
they're on there on that road and we I'm

1288
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,280
thinking that the nearer the doctoral

1289
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:47,040
roundabout probably half a mile in front

1290
00:48:50,270 --> 00:48:48,660
of the doctoral roundabout there's a pub

1291
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:50,280
there called the doctoral and it would

1292
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:51,900
call that back in the day

1293
00:48:58,370 --> 00:48:55,920
and there's a roadblock set up

1294
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,380
they're stopped there's no cars on road

1295
00:49:02,569 --> 00:49:00,839
and there's nothing happening he's quiet

1296
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,579
he's quiet now on a night so he's gonna

1297
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:05,520
be back in the 1990s

1298
00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:07,980
no military Vans they're all black

1299
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,200
so there's black vehicles and Personnel

1300
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:12,000
come to the side of the car they bundle

1301
00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:14,520
mum out they bundle Dad out drag them

1302
00:49:18,290 --> 00:49:15,780
into a van

1303
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,300
inside the van there's military

1304
00:49:24,190 --> 00:49:21,359
personnel dressed in black head to toe

1305
00:49:30,349 --> 00:49:27,710
you'd speak about nothing that you're

1306
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:30,359
told nothing that you've seen

1307
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,280
then they gave they proceeded to give

1308
00:49:37,329 --> 00:49:34,319
them a breakdown of

1309
00:49:41,329 --> 00:49:37,339
all their family were where they lived

1310
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:41,339
lots and lots of things that they knew

1311
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:43,980
that strangers shouldn't have known

1312
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:46,079
basically frightened them to death and

1313
00:49:51,230 --> 00:49:48,540
let them go and they came and obviously

1314
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:51,240
spilled that story before anybody had a

1315
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:54,480
chance to talk about the UFO and uh

1316
00:50:00,349 --> 00:49:58,800
we've kind of we've we've well we've got

1317
00:50:02,030 --> 00:50:00,359
through hummingbay which probably what

1318
00:50:05,210 --> 00:50:02,040
is it half an hour an hour I don't know

1319
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:05,220
but uh you've got the gist of it but you

1320
00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:06,660
touched on earlier Andrew unless you

1321
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:08,280
want to ask any questions before we get

1322
00:50:10,750 --> 00:50:09,720
to a few other things that happened in

1323
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:10,760
that year

1324
00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:14,640
yeah uh so I'd ask about the story oh so

1325
00:50:19,309 --> 00:50:16,560
I was going to ask were there any parts

1326
00:50:22,210 --> 00:50:19,319
of any of the stories when you were

1327
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:22,220
talking to them that you did question

1328
00:50:27,170 --> 00:50:25,040
anything

1329
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:27,180
because I don't want this to come across

1330
00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:28,680
the wrong way no it's not that you

1331
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:31,020
thought they were maybe lying directly

1332
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,060
but either they were they were adding

1333
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,280
details in to protect themselves at each

1334
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:37,920
other or maybe something like that or

1335
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,900
maybe you did think actually that's not

1336
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:41,520
true and you know it's not true but they

1337
00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:42,900
were telling you it anyway so I'm just

1338
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:46,020
curious on that well I I don't want to

1339
00:50:50,089 --> 00:50:47,400
sound like I'm naive and gullible

1340
00:50:51,470 --> 00:50:50,099
because as like yourself you've spoke to

1341
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:51,480
lots of people and I think I've spoke to

1342
00:50:54,589 --> 00:50:52,980
hundreds of people over years I've

1343
00:50:56,569 --> 00:50:54,599
believed they were telling me truth but

1344
00:50:59,150 --> 00:50:56,579
I do believe that things were being held

1345
00:51:00,890 --> 00:50:59,160
back from me well no I don't believe

1346
00:51:02,569 --> 00:51:00,900
things were being held back for me I

1347
00:51:04,490 --> 00:51:02,579
know things were being held back from me

1348
00:51:07,490 --> 00:51:04,500
there's a lot more to Hummingbird than

1349
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:07,500
what you guys have just got and uh

1350
00:51:12,170 --> 00:51:09,660
whether I get to it whether I whether I

1351
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:12,180
managed to unearth it if if I Unearthed

1352
00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:13,800
it now and spoke about it now I would

1353
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:15,480
upset people

1354
00:51:19,549 --> 00:51:17,400
but because I'd be talking about truths

1355
00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:19,559
that I've been asked

1356
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:22,260
I've not everything I spoke about is the

1357
00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:24,900
truth as I've been told it but there's

1358
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,540
more in between it all that I've been

1359
00:51:33,410 --> 00:51:30,240
asked to keep out of it and it's it

1360
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,420
sounds all Crypt cryptic not Cryptid but

1361
00:51:39,049 --> 00:51:35,280
you know I know it and I know how that

1362
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,059
must sound but I've just got to respect

1363
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:41,520
people who've asked me not to talk about

1364
00:51:46,609 --> 00:51:44,700
certain aspects of of what took place uh

1365
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:46,619
so I've Not Bent the story in any way

1366
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:48,540
but there are elements that make it even

1367
00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:50,220
more exciting I'll be honest with you

1368
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:52,380
and and that's what it is it's exciting

1369
00:51:58,910 --> 00:51:56,460
and frightening and uh you asked earlier

1370
00:52:01,790 --> 00:51:58,920
about other things that occurred around

1371
00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:01,800
that say a time frame well

1372
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,859
in 2019 myself and Bob Brown were on the

1373
00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:07,200
cliff tops at Benton

1374
00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:09,660
I sound like a broken record I know but

1375
00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,059
we were trying to film these lights and

1376
00:52:16,010 --> 00:52:14,280
there's we could always think only thing

1377
00:52:17,690 --> 00:52:16,020
we can see Andy in the distance about a

1378
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,700
mile away is the headlight of one

1379
00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:18,960
fisherman

1380
00:52:24,109 --> 00:52:21,540
and this will relate to human being a

1381
00:52:26,089 --> 00:52:24,119
moment people so

1382
00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:26,099
I we're observing him and there's

1383
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:27,540
nothing happening I've got a camera set

1384
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,920
up and it's all sort of covered because

1385
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:31,440
of moisture in air and

1386
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,180
it's amount of time passed and he's

1387
00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:35,040
walking towards us we can I can see Zed

1388
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:36,900
light moving and he's coming towards us

1389
00:52:40,730 --> 00:52:38,940
in darkness well I don't put lights on

1390
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:40,740
everywhere so it wouldn't have been a

1391
00:52:44,329 --> 00:52:42,240
way we were there even

1392
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:44,339
apart from setting up and that's then I

1393
00:52:47,930 --> 00:52:46,380
switch everything off and I said to Bob

1394
00:52:49,609 --> 00:52:47,940
I said when he gets closer I'm gonna put

1395
00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:49,619
a light on because I don't want to start

1396
00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:51,240
link we're on edge at three to four

1397
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:52,920
hundred foot Cliffs aren't we I don't

1398
00:52:55,849 --> 00:52:54,119
think he's just going to jump off them

1399
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,859
but I don't want to start him so I did

1400
00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:58,079
just that so he draws up alongside me

1401
00:53:02,450 --> 00:53:00,599
and there's this old fisherman Mick

1402
00:53:05,150 --> 00:53:02,460
sigson they're calling that's his real

1403
00:53:06,109 --> 00:53:05,160
name everybody calls him Siggy which I

1404
00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:06,119
know now

1405
00:53:10,609 --> 00:53:09,059
so um what you're doing Ladson I told

1406
00:53:12,410 --> 00:53:10,619
him and he went heard about me before

1407
00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:12,420
being up there from other Rock Anglers

1408
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:13,859
and other people

1409
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:15,540
I said have you have you managed to

1410
00:53:19,309 --> 00:53:18,240
catch any fish bites such a small talk

1411
00:53:21,710 --> 00:53:19,319
and then I asked him if he'd seen

1412
00:53:24,049 --> 00:53:21,720
anything unusual whilst fishing these

1413
00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:24,059
Cliff tops and he explained that this

1414
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,460
coming year this back in 2019 so you can

1415
00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:28,559
get an idea of his age he said he'd

1416
00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:30,540
fished The Rock The Cliffs of Benton and

1417
00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:33,720
flambra for 50 years

1418
00:53:38,089 --> 00:53:35,940
he said and uh he said I've seen all

1419
00:53:40,010 --> 00:53:38,099
sorts he says I've seen I've heard all

1420
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,020
sorts of unearthly things around the old

1421
00:53:44,569 --> 00:53:42,960
RAF base or you know which is about I

1422
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:44,579
don't know a mile further up than where

1423
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,760
we were he said and uh I asked him about

1424
00:53:51,170 --> 00:53:49,440
the life forms these spheres of light

1425
00:53:52,670 --> 00:53:51,180
and he said he'd never seen him which

1426
00:53:54,109 --> 00:53:52,680
you have found fascinating for somebody

1427
00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:54,119
that had fished there over because

1428
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,099
that's primarily what people are seeing

1429
00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:58,559
yeah but he said I have seen a spaceship

1430
00:54:02,569 --> 00:54:00,180
I said when

1431
00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:02,579
oh what what's this about it's a and he

1432
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:04,380
turned around he says that Hill there he

1433
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:06,960
said it landed on that Hill I said

1434
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:09,720
really so as he's talking I knew I'd

1435
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:12,000
already heard the story but from the son

1436
00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:14,160
of one of the rock Anglers who was with

1437
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:16,380
him that night and I don't tend to use

1438
00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:18,900
them that that that's we know that all

1439
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,220
we're dealing with Andy in a lot of

1440
00:54:24,109 --> 00:54:22,319
instances is anecdotal evidence but I

1441
00:54:26,450 --> 00:54:24,119
prefer first-hand accounts to a friend

1442
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,460
of a friend said this yeah I want it

1443
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,800
from the horse's mouth so I've noted

1444
00:54:35,089 --> 00:54:31,200
that uh this guy had told me his dad saw

1445
00:54:36,410 --> 00:54:35,099
this UFO and ran away that night during

1446
00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:36,420
a fishing match

1447
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:39,420
so it it proceeded to tell me he said

1448
00:54:44,569 --> 00:54:41,460
well he said it well 1998 he said and it

1449
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:44,579
was November and it was a club match I

1450
00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:46,800
think in filey fishing club which is

1451
00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:49,160
still in now it's just it's not sinning

1452
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,020
and uh he said we're up there fishing

1453
00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:54,240
it's it's a clear night it's a November

1454
00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:56,460
Cold November evening

1455
00:55:00,410 --> 00:54:58,440
and I think there's six or seven men up

1456
00:55:02,510 --> 00:55:00,420
there now it's not like fishing around a

1457
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,520
pond people when you do Cliff top

1458
00:55:05,930 --> 00:55:04,319
fishing you might be there you'll see a

1459
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,940
headlight you might see another one

1460
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,920
half a mile down Cliffs and another one

1461
00:55:12,589 --> 00:55:09,839
two miles down Cliffs that's how it is

1462
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:12,599
because these places there's not they're

1463
00:55:18,109 --> 00:55:15,540
not all accessible to just Cast Your Rod

1464
00:55:19,609 --> 00:55:18,119
and your line out down the two down a

1465
00:55:20,809 --> 00:55:19,619
three to four hundred foot cliff imagine

1466
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:20,819
that and then you've got to catch a fish

1467
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:24,000
and get it up and the sheer so he said

1468
00:55:29,329 --> 00:55:25,920
I'm fishing he said I don't know whether

1469
00:55:31,309 --> 00:55:29,339
I saw uh heard or saw other Anglers sort

1470
00:55:33,650 --> 00:55:31,319
of moving about and the Reds moving or

1471
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:33,660
whether I caught a glimpse of it myself

1472
00:55:37,549 --> 00:55:35,940
so but I turned around he said on the

1473
00:55:39,710 --> 00:55:37,559
hill

1474
00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:39,720
I suddenly thought what so you what's a

1475
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,700
combine harvester doing up there at this

1476
00:55:45,049 --> 00:55:43,680
time of night at this time of year

1477
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,059
apologist people

1478
00:55:51,470 --> 00:55:47,760
said then I realized I can see the hill

1479
00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:51,480
and I can see a gap of Sky between the

1480
00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:53,160
hill and the object

1481
00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:55,260
so hold on it's about 30 foot in air

1482
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:56,940
this bloody thing and there's nothing

1483
00:56:01,010 --> 00:55:58,680
behind the ill but Farmland you know I

1484
00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:01,020
know the area really well no properties

1485
00:56:04,130 --> 00:56:02,700
nothing that could be lit up that you

1486
00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:04,140
would mistake

1487
00:56:09,770 --> 00:56:07,140
he said and then it starts to come down

1488
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:09,780
he said and as it gets closer to the and

1489
00:56:14,809 --> 00:56:13,200
it's all yellows whites and oranges this

1490
00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:14,819
this thing with lights revolving around

1491
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:17,339
it as it gets closer to the ground all

1492
00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:19,980
Sparks are coming off the ground and

1493
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,960
when it lands there's a circle of flames

1494
00:56:26,210 --> 00:56:24,240
around it and it's on the floor then it

1495
00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:26,220
says I'll just put Pat my gear together

1496
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,980
what I could and I I got off cliff tops

1497
00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:30,480
he says and other guys were moving that

1498
00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:33,300
were inside of it and that ends with the

1499
00:56:37,849 --> 00:56:35,400
son of the father were with him that

1500
00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:37,859
night I've confirmed it we make you know

1501
00:56:41,089 --> 00:56:39,720
we got the name of this guy and he'd

1502
00:56:43,309 --> 00:56:41,099
done a runner and he left his fishing

1503
00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:43,319
tattle on the cliff tops and just ran

1504
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:44,520
off

1505
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:48,000
so so that well that sighting

1506
00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:52,559
a few months before June and July

1507
00:56:57,410 --> 00:56:55,619
um just moved these forwards please uh

1508
00:56:59,569 --> 00:56:57,420
June and July

1509
00:57:01,730 --> 00:56:59,579
and I would that's been looking through

1510
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:01,740
a lot of archives of the Lifeboat

1511
00:57:06,290 --> 00:57:03,960
station at Bridlington uh one of the

1512
00:57:08,329 --> 00:57:06,300
staff there will kindly let me sort of

1513
00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:08,339
look for certain years but basically

1514
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,740
well based on 1998 I wanted to look if

1515
00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:12,960
anything had happened so I found out on

1516
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:15,420
15th of June

1517
00:57:19,549 --> 00:57:16,980
um let's get your actual name at

1518
00:57:22,849 --> 00:57:19,559
aircraft well we're a tornado but

1519
00:57:25,849 --> 00:57:22,859
tornado z7 I can't see but I think it

1520
00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:25,859
was ze723 and if it's seven three two

1521
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:28,859
people I apologize but you know so

1522
00:57:36,049 --> 00:57:32,760
flying 10 to 15 miles off Benton and

1523
00:57:37,609 --> 00:57:36,059
flambora vanished off radar burning in

1524
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,619
man there's no mystery of it Vanishing

1525
00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:39,839
off radar it's probably gone below radar

1526
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:42,900
and uh we crashed into North Sea June

1527
00:57:49,309 --> 00:57:46,559
the 15th now the UFO researchers of the

1528
00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:49,319
day Andy made a lot of this I didn't

1529
00:57:52,849 --> 00:57:51,480
know them I know they are now but you

1530
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:52,859
know I weren't involved in any of that

1531
00:57:57,770 --> 00:57:55,380
and talking about it being UFO related

1532
00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:57,780
now I've got no I've got no information

1533
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:00,599
to see was UFO related I just think it's

1534
00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:03,599
worth we're worth noting I wish I could

1535
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,020
just move these Bits of Paper and uh

1536
00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:09,119
so

1537
00:58:12,670 --> 00:58:11,460
during the course of that a few days

1538
00:58:16,130 --> 00:58:12,680
before

1539
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:16,140
ze723 crashed I saw in the log of the

1540
00:58:24,349 --> 00:58:19,440
Lifeboat station it said object

1541
00:58:26,510 --> 00:58:24,359
and uh basically the log said

1542
00:58:30,109 --> 00:58:26,520
onto Coast Guard Bridlington Coast Guard

1543
00:58:32,210 --> 00:58:30,119
tasked to investigate a large black

1544
00:58:34,730 --> 00:58:32,220
object that has seen to fall from the

1545
00:58:36,349 --> 00:58:34,740
sky we're talking about this in this in

1546
00:58:38,329 --> 00:58:36,359
the suitcase falling from somebody's

1547
00:58:41,089 --> 00:58:38,339
bedroom window this is over the North

1548
00:58:43,490 --> 00:58:41,099
Sea it's about four to six miles out of

1549
00:58:45,170 --> 00:58:43,500
Bridlington and flambora land on the

1550
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:45,180
surface of the sea can be seen for a

1551
00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:46,500
short time

1552
00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:48,780
and now lifeboats went out to

1553
00:58:52,190 --> 00:58:50,460
investigate nothing to be found and they

1554
00:58:55,549 --> 00:58:52,200
called it objects now I put a freedom

1555
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:55,559
information requesting to MCA Maritime

1556
00:59:00,170 --> 00:58:58,319
Coast Guard agency and they were really

1557
00:59:02,990 --> 00:59:00,180
unhelpful they they don't they don't

1558
00:59:04,609 --> 00:59:03,000
have records for going back that far

1559
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,619
which we know they do but that's

1560
00:59:09,470 --> 00:59:06,960
basically what I got told unfortunately

1561
00:59:12,829 --> 00:59:09,480
I'd already seen it as a live vlogging

1562
00:59:14,930 --> 00:59:12,839
Lifeboat station yeah so kindly I I

1563
00:59:16,609 --> 00:59:14,940
didn't really have to put a freedom

1564
00:59:19,370 --> 00:59:16,619
information request into life but but I

1565
00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:19,380
did and they gave it me so I got the log

1566
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,660
which the Coast Guard agency said don't

1567
00:59:24,829 --> 00:59:23,280
doesn't exist so that's in book two

1568
00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:24,839
that's in truth proof too beyond the

1569
00:59:29,150 --> 00:59:27,540
thinking mind that's there uh

1570
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,160
unfortunately though when I got the log

1571
00:59:33,289 --> 00:59:31,440
the word object had been removed

1572
00:59:35,089 --> 00:59:33,299
but that would too late I'd seen it so

1573
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:35,099
I've not added it for sensationalism it

1574
00:59:37,970 --> 00:59:36,720
were definitely there when I looked at

1575
00:59:42,589 --> 00:59:37,980
it you know

1576
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:42,599
so so we got that strange UFO occurrence

1577
00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:47,760
back in uh June July of 1998 or you were

1578
00:59:52,490 --> 00:59:50,280
definitely a UFO it was unidentified

1579
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:52,500
that that landed on the surface of the

1580
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:55,920
sea whether ZD 723 or UFO related I

1581
01:00:03,770 --> 00:59:59,160
don't know during 1998 over the North

1582
01:00:05,450 --> 01:00:03,780
Sea the the newspapers reported of a UFO

1583
01:00:08,089 --> 01:00:05,460
the size of a battleship

1584
01:00:09,950 --> 01:00:08,099
uh been pursued by aircraft or a bit of

1585
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:09,960
debate whether it was

1586
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,839
sensationalism as regard and a genuine

1587
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:14,400
story I don't know whether it was or it

1588
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,260
wasn't I think it was the The Daily

1589
01:00:20,510 --> 01:00:18,000
Telegraph that reported it if I've got

1590
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:20,520
the wrong paper I apologize but you know

1591
01:00:26,270 --> 01:00:23,640
there was a big article about it

1592
01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:26,280
um so then jumping back to Mick sigson

1593
01:00:30,650 --> 01:00:27,900
because what I didn't say at the time

1594
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:30,660
when Mick told us this story I asked him

1595
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,460
if we could film him would he would

1596
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:34,079
willing to come on film and talk about

1597
01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:35,880
this spaceship that landed on the cliff

1598
01:00:41,390 --> 01:00:38,520
tops and he said it would so myself and

1599
01:00:42,770 --> 01:00:41,400
Bob Brown picked him up one evening took

1600
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:42,780
some strong lighting with us and I got

1601
01:00:46,609 --> 01:00:44,880
him set up on the cliff top roughly

1602
01:00:47,569 --> 01:00:46,619
where he was fishing with the ill in the

1603
01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:47,579
background

1604
01:00:51,950 --> 01:00:49,799
and he gave us the story bearing in mind

1605
01:00:55,549 --> 01:00:51,960
he'd never seen these spheres of Light

1606
01:00:56,930 --> 01:00:55,559
which I call the ilfs intelligent light

1607
01:00:59,410 --> 01:00:56,940
forms because I believe there's an

1608
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,420
awareness to them just like

1609
01:01:04,430 --> 01:01:01,760
potentially just like the Foo Fighters

1610
01:01:06,349 --> 01:01:04,440
these these whether it's some kind of

1611
01:01:08,690 --> 01:01:06,359
secret technology that that we don't

1612
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:08,700
know about man-made but if it is it's

1613
01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:11,520
not Advanced Andy it's not Advanced

1614
01:01:16,190 --> 01:01:13,740
since the war do you know what I mean

1615
01:01:18,289 --> 01:01:16,200
the Brown Mountain Lights we're all

1616
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:18,299
we're dealing with this sort of strange

1617
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:21,599
aerial phenomena that seems to appear at

1618
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:23,400
will and disappear at will so he'd not

1619
01:01:26,750 --> 01:01:24,900
seen them

1620
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:26,760
so we've done this little interview he

1621
01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:28,559
told us the story I packed the camera

1622
01:01:34,730 --> 01:01:29,700
away

1623
01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:34,740
look up and there's two above us

1624
01:01:39,890 --> 01:01:37,619
I don't know how far the the definitely

1625
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:39,900
a couple of thousand feet up but the big

1626
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,720
bright like tangerines in Sky Silent not

1627
01:01:46,130 --> 01:01:44,400
flown from anywhere

1628
01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:46,140
so look at that the lights and Bob saw

1629
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:48,180
them mix all them

1630
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:50,400
straight down for my camera

1631
01:01:56,030 --> 01:01:53,520
gone Switched Off stand there like a

1632
01:01:59,030 --> 01:01:56,040
fall for 10 minutes with camera

1633
01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:59,040
come on you know nothing put the camera

1634
01:02:03,170 --> 01:01:59,880
away

1635
01:02:05,950 --> 01:02:03,180
But there again same same formation kind

1636
01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:05,960
of at four o'clock and twelve o'clock

1637
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,240
so get camera out again nothing so we

1638
01:02:12,890 --> 01:02:11,520
walk home we you know we picked Mikko we

1639
01:02:13,789 --> 01:02:12,900
walk along the cliff tops and we take

1640
01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:13,799
him home

1641
01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:17,880
uh midpoint to come on again

1642
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:19,980
don't bother getting the camera out they

1643
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:22,440
go off okay I don't know another half a

1644
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:24,720
mile down they come on again we dropped

1645
01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:26,640
him off and myself and Bob came back

1646
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:29,640
there was nothing at all that night you

1647
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:30,720
know so

1648
01:02:35,450 --> 01:02:33,359
will that pure coincidence I have no

1649
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:35,460
idea I mean Mick said he'd never ever

1650
01:02:40,849 --> 01:02:38,160
seen them before so

1651
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:40,859
excuse me 12th of June I've just got to

1652
01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:43,920
this log now the 12th of June was uh

1653
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:47,520
when the object was seen okay uh you

1654
01:02:53,569 --> 01:02:50,640
know uh to descend from the sky and land

1655
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:53,579
on the surface of the sea uh and let's

1656
01:02:59,630 --> 01:02:57,540
have a look zeddy 15th of June uh 12th

1657
01:03:01,789 --> 01:02:59,640
of July people sorry 12th of July the

1658
01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:01,799
object was seen on the 15th of June is

1659
01:03:07,010 --> 01:03:04,140
when said he and I did get it right then

1660
01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:07,020
I said seven three two crashed off

1661
01:03:13,970 --> 01:03:10,920
flamber and Benton interestingly 2020

1662
01:03:17,690 --> 01:03:13,980
the f-15c eagle crashed off Lumber and

1663
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:17,700
Benton 15th of June interestingly I

1664
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:18,960
don't know whether we even touched on

1665
01:03:24,770 --> 01:03:21,599
this when we did the podcast I don't

1666
01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:24,780
know a few months ago but the 15th of

1667
01:03:29,150 --> 01:03:27,000
June and I think it was 2011. oh the

1668
01:03:32,210 --> 01:03:29,160
wallabies got decapitated at sorby Hall

1669
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:32,220
Zoo yeah we did yeah you know and it's

1670
01:03:37,069 --> 01:03:35,400
he it's just a strange one you know well

1671
01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:37,079
he started it started with one actually

1672
01:03:43,609 --> 01:03:39,480
and then subsequently they all sort of

1673
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:43,619
perished and uh 15th of June 15th of

1674
01:03:47,450 --> 01:03:45,599
June triangle in a pea crop which I

1675
01:03:50,569 --> 01:03:47,460
talked about I think in book two as well

1676
01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:50,579
is when that occurred when Pete I'm not

1677
01:03:54,829 --> 01:03:52,260
saying surname Peter's walking his dog

1678
01:03:57,710 --> 01:03:54,839
up Cliff Lane 15th of June I think it

1679
01:03:59,809 --> 01:03:57,720
was 2017 and alerted me to it and I went

1680
01:04:00,970 --> 01:03:59,819
up and got photographs of it took a soil

1681
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:00,980
sample

1682
01:04:06,770 --> 01:04:04,920
uh why 15th of June Andy I really don't

1683
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:06,780
know now you know there's so many

1684
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:08,240
similarities

1685
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:11,700
just briefly jump away from hummingbird

1686
01:04:16,250 --> 01:04:14,700
last on Tuesday night the 7th of

1687
01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:16,260
February

1688
01:04:20,930 --> 01:04:18,900
I'm up there there's myself Bob Brown

1689
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:20,940
and Peter

1690
01:04:25,970 --> 01:04:23,520
and I'm looking at the hill the same

1691
01:04:27,770 --> 01:04:25,980
Hill that's when I talked touched on in

1692
01:04:30,289 --> 01:04:27,780
the first podcast that we did the first

1693
01:04:33,309 --> 01:04:30,299
stream that within the zone of

1694
01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:33,319
strangeness this concentrated hot spots

1695
01:04:37,970 --> 01:04:36,420
you know and I'm I'm sort of facing my

1696
01:04:40,130 --> 01:04:37,980
back to the Sea and I just said to us

1697
01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:40,140
I've just seen an orange kind of light

1698
01:04:46,730 --> 01:04:41,880
on the hill

1699
01:04:48,109 --> 01:04:46,740
this is Tuesday that's just gone and uh

1700
01:04:49,789 --> 01:04:48,119
they're looking at it I can't see

1701
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,799
anything at this time and then suddenly

1702
01:04:53,030 --> 01:04:51,599
an orange light just comes up from the

1703
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:53,040
ground and it stays there and then goes

1704
01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:54,000
back down

1705
01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:56,040
can't work this out put the little

1706
01:05:00,289 --> 01:04:57,720
camera on psionics I wish I'd put the

1707
01:05:01,849 --> 01:05:00,299
Sony on brilliant camera's the psionics

1708
01:05:03,230 --> 01:05:01,859
people I wouldn't just discourage people

1709
01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:03,240
from buying them but you don't get a

1710
01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:04,980
true representation of the color that

1711
01:05:08,329 --> 01:05:06,599
you're looking at it's bright orange

1712
01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:08,339
whatever looking at

1713
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,040
so filming it I've got it it comes up it

1714
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:13,440
goes down so we've got it on film you

1715
01:05:18,349 --> 01:05:15,240
know I've not I've downloaded it it's on

1716
01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:18,359
this PC so we've got that on film but

1717
01:05:27,049 --> 01:05:21,000
that's the seventh so where am I going

1718
01:05:29,569 --> 01:05:27,059
with this seventh of February 2020

1719
01:05:31,549 --> 01:05:29,579
Bob Brown myself and we talked about

1720
01:05:33,710 --> 01:05:31,559
Gemma who was with us seeing the swear

1721
01:05:36,890 --> 01:05:33,720
of white light on the hill

1722
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:36,900
2020 7th of June 7th of June we see this

1723
01:05:44,089 --> 01:05:42,079
object uh then we go back to 2019

1724
01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:44,099
apologies people I'm ahead of myself

1725
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:46,380
February 7th of February I think you'd

1726
01:05:49,549 --> 01:05:47,520
already got that Andrew aren't you

1727
01:05:50,750 --> 01:05:49,559
anyway yeah uh yeah we've been in

1728
01:05:52,250 --> 01:05:50,760
February because we've jumped from home

1729
01:05:53,329 --> 01:05:52,260
and bit but I just I think it's worth

1730
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:53,339
noting

1731
01:05:58,190 --> 01:05:55,680
8th of February

1732
01:05:59,630 --> 01:05:58,200
2019 the military guys claimed they've

1733
01:06:02,390 --> 01:05:59,640
seen this weird creature on the cliff

1734
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:02,400
tops within 500 yards of that Hill you

1735
01:06:06,890 --> 01:06:04,799
know no none of these people know each

1736
01:06:09,289 --> 01:06:06,900
other well Bob and Bob Brown and I know

1737
01:06:11,450 --> 01:06:09,299
don't we but uh it's fascinating so

1738
01:06:15,230 --> 01:06:11,460
we've probably covered

1739
01:06:18,770 --> 01:06:15,240
most of hummingbay I was contacted

1740
01:06:21,829 --> 01:06:18,780
about 18 months ago by a guy who said

1741
01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:21,839
he'd heard me talking about it

1742
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:23,640
and he was coming home I think he said

1743
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,200
he was a plumber well I know he did he

1744
01:06:30,349 --> 01:06:27,119
was coming home that night

1745
01:06:32,930 --> 01:06:30,359
and he stopped his car in the road

1746
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:32,940
just down from the doctoral Pub to

1747
01:06:37,609 --> 01:06:36,000
observe her huge triangle craft above

1748
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:37,619
him he said there were an elderly couple

1749
01:06:42,049 --> 01:06:40,079
and they're in someone like a fiesta he

1750
01:06:43,549 --> 01:06:42,059
said a small hatchback car and they'd

1751
01:06:46,910 --> 01:06:43,559
stopped and they're looking up at this

1752
01:06:48,529 --> 01:06:46,920
thing as well it doesn't mean that you

1753
01:06:50,270 --> 01:06:48,539
know that's that's connected to humming

1754
01:06:53,809 --> 01:06:50,280
me but you know there is a there's a lot

1755
01:06:56,510 --> 01:06:53,819
of stuff Sutter around it so yeah to me

1756
01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:56,520
it's just a fascinating story Andrew no

1757
01:06:59,870 --> 01:06:58,260
it really is Paul and as we kind of wrap

1758
01:07:02,870 --> 01:06:59,880
up there's one more question I suppose

1759
01:07:05,690 --> 01:07:02,880
I've got on hunman beers you talk about

1760
01:07:07,849 --> 01:07:05,700
the the three years there was three

1761
01:07:11,870 --> 01:07:07,859
months in each of those years June July

1762
01:07:14,450 --> 01:07:11,880
August 96 97 98 why why do you think

1763
01:07:17,089 --> 01:07:14,460
there was a cycle of activity and

1764
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:17,099
happening which comes and Peaks and then

1765
01:07:21,849 --> 01:07:19,920
goes and then obviously it culminated in

1766
01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:21,859
that third year with the landing itself

1767
01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:24,420
do you know I I haven't got an answer to

1768
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:27,480
it but it definitely does good Peaks and

1769
01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:29,400
troughs it definitely I feel that we're

1770
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,380
going to have a bit of activity now up

1771
01:07:35,630 --> 01:07:33,119
around the Benton area not just because

1772
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,640
we saw that on Tuesday night but it's

1773
01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:37,680
been absolutely flat

1774
01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:40,500
for for months and months and months and

1775
01:07:45,470 --> 01:07:43,740
we I also noted that that this it was it

1776
01:07:47,150 --> 01:07:45,480
were really quiet and I don't mean the

1777
01:07:49,549 --> 01:07:47,160
what people turn the US Factor we've not

1778
01:07:52,430 --> 01:07:49,559
got that strangeness to it but it was a

1779
01:07:54,589 --> 01:07:52,440
really quiet night uh you know on on

1780
01:07:58,190 --> 01:07:54,599
Tuesday night very quiet kind of ringing

1781
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,200
kind of quiet but why why does it go in

1782
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:00,960
uh sort of Peaks and then sort of big

1783
01:08:04,730 --> 01:08:02,640
dips I don't know I haven't got an

1784
01:08:09,010 --> 01:08:04,740
answer to that but I think it's worth

1785
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:09,020
noting and uh and it's you know status

1786
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:11,220
statisticians is that the word people

1787
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:14,880
want to to look at the the data I think

1788
01:08:19,130 --> 01:08:17,400
I think we we could as researchers as

1789
01:08:20,990 --> 01:08:19,140
people are looking into these cases we

1790
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:21,000
could do with people like that out there

1791
01:08:24,410 --> 01:08:22,620
I think they're just as important as me

1792
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:24,420
because we can we could probably see

1793
01:08:29,809 --> 01:08:28,080
similarities and and maybe even predict

1794
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,819
when certain things might start

1795
01:08:33,950 --> 01:08:31,440
occurring that's why I've always thought

1796
01:08:35,450 --> 01:08:33,960
to myself with such a skinwalker wrench

1797
01:08:36,890 --> 01:08:35,460
we'll use that as kind of The Benchmark

1798
01:08:39,229 --> 01:08:36,900
because everybody wants to touch on that

1799
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:39,239
area or places like the higher Baku

1800
01:08:44,150 --> 01:08:41,880
Forest where where strange things are

1801
01:08:45,610 --> 01:08:44,160
said to happen if if researchers and

1802
01:08:48,169 --> 01:08:45,620
people within those areas could

1803
01:08:50,450 --> 01:08:48,179
cross-reference data I think we would

1804
01:08:52,490 --> 01:08:50,460
probably get a lot further I wondered

1805
01:08:54,650 --> 01:08:52,500
even again if those folks who are good

1806
01:08:56,749 --> 01:08:54,660
with their numbers analysts or or

1807
01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:56,759
meteorological which is a hard one to

1808
01:09:00,590 --> 01:08:58,980
say but you know whether any magnetic

1809
01:09:02,570 --> 01:09:00,600
anomalies that would happen that would

1810
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,580
kind of culminate and there was there

1811
01:09:05,809 --> 01:09:04,319
was months and years and is that

1812
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:05,819
something like you say that happens now

1813
01:09:09,650 --> 01:09:07,920
and again was it something with the Sun

1814
01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:09,660
at that time you know was there any kind

1815
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:11,940
of strange offshoots from the Sun yeah

1816
01:09:16,669 --> 01:09:14,160
solar flares or anything yeah it's a

1817
01:09:19,249 --> 01:09:16,679
good point and and we we have we have

1818
01:09:22,249 --> 01:09:19,259
touched on the magnetic anomaly at

1819
01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:22,259
Benton uh you know because that clearly

1820
01:09:26,510 --> 01:09:24,540
exists it's a negative magnetic anomaly

1821
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:26,520
and you've got the troll and men will

1822
01:09:31,610 --> 01:09:29,520
talk about traveling or sailing out to

1823
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:31,620
fishing grounds and they can do it for

1824
01:09:35,570 --> 01:09:34,080
10 years and experience nothing and then

1825
01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:35,580
on one particular day the compass is

1826
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:37,500
just going stupid they know because the

1827
01:09:43,070 --> 01:09:40,020
season would see where they are but uh

1828
01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:43,080
these these things happen but I think a

1829
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:45,060
lot of people it could be to do with

1830
01:09:49,729 --> 01:09:47,400
that magnetic anomalies or I don't know

1831
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,739
enough about leylands but and magnetic

1832
01:09:53,809 --> 01:09:51,359
anomaly

1833
01:09:57,229 --> 01:09:53,819
a negative and a positive it's only a an

1834
01:09:59,689 --> 01:09:57,239
area where the the magnetism is either

1835
01:10:01,250 --> 01:09:59,699
stronger or less there's no mystical

1836
01:10:02,810 --> 01:10:01,260
element attached to it as some

1837
01:10:04,669 --> 01:10:02,820
researchers who kind of want you to

1838
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:04,679
believe but that doesn't mean that it's

1839
01:10:10,130 --> 01:10:07,199
not attributed to that it's you know

1840
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:10,140
it's uh obviously everything about it is

1841
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,360
fascinating I mean we've just oh we've

1842
01:10:16,669 --> 01:10:13,920
just scraped the surface I suppose on

1843
01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:16,679
human bee but there is more to come on

1844
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:19,140
it I mean and you know I saturated

1845
01:10:24,530 --> 01:10:21,900
myself in it writing the second book and

1846
01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:24,540
you know it takes a big chunk up of the

1847
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:27,000
book I think it's about 10 to 15 000

1848
01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:30,239
words but I've got more information now

1849
01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:32,219
that can be rolled out and I do intend

1850
01:10:35,870 --> 01:10:34,440
reaching out to Andrew I asked him if I

1851
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:35,880
could interview him a few months ago and

1852
01:10:40,669 --> 01:10:38,880
he said I could so I shall be uh just

1853
01:10:42,530 --> 01:10:40,679
leaning more information and just

1854
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:42,540
letting it roll from there it's same as

1855
01:10:46,189 --> 01:10:44,040
Will's thought will Stop's an incredible

1856
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,199
case and we're only from hormone but

1857
01:10:49,390 --> 01:10:48,000
we're only like eight miles up the coast

1858
01:10:53,570 --> 01:10:49,400
and that's

1859
01:10:56,770 --> 01:10:53,580
September the 15th 2009 you know and

1860
01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:56,780
that that is as interesting as Hornby

1861
01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:59,640
what we're seeing off the coast there

1862
01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:01,320
we'll listen we'll maybe get to that

1863
01:11:04,850 --> 01:11:03,300
another show uh it's been great to dive

1864
01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:04,860
into hunman Bay what I want to ask is

1865
01:11:08,810 --> 01:11:06,780
just to finish off uh you've mentioned

1866
01:11:10,729 --> 01:11:08,820
will flands on the previous record and

1867
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:10,739
we're done I know there have been a few

1868
01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:12,480
updates on your Facebook where you've

1869
01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:14,340
been doing post-production on Wolf land

1870
01:11:18,169 --> 01:11:16,739
some narration and I just wonder where

1871
01:11:20,930 --> 01:11:18,179
are you at with real Flan's the

1872
01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:20,940
documentary piece yeah thank you well I

1873
01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:22,920
think people will be securing me saying

1874
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:25,020
it Andy but we're close I mean we've

1875
01:11:28,370 --> 01:11:27,300
done our part of it the music's been

1876
01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:28,380
done now we're at my daughter's

1877
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recording studio last Saturday I just

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sat with them it was just nice not to be

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able to do all too stressful and I think

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they were about 20 minutes into it Mick

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Park who's also working with my daughter

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Jess and Nick so there's Mick Park and

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Nick Britain or do it wanting to do the

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music they've started at the back

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they're starting at the front and

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they're going to meet him middle or all

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the stem the stems and everything to do

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with the production of the music I

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didn't realize there was much in it

1890
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there's over 100 elements there's as you

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go through the map there's little rushes

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and Peaks there's lots and lots involved

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in the music I just thought it were a

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matter of overlaying some music onto a

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film and that was it so so and Jessica

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we're my daughter who's a classically

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01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:15,060
trained opera singer she's putting all

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the harmonies and it's gonna be very

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01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:19,080
haunting so we're lucky yeah we've just

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got to wait for them I think end of

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month we're going to be nearly there

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with it you know it's better than me

1903
01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:24,659
saying like two years ago well we're

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01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:26,580
nearly there we are actually almost

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there but we're so lucky because I mean

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the music's going to be stunning on its

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01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:35,880
own you know Mick and the guy who works

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01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:37,080
with Nick Britton they've worked with

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01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:39,060
some top artists in world I don't know

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01:12:44,209 --> 01:12:40,560
if I touched on it last time we spoke

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01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:44,219
but I'm talking like people with Ruby

1912
01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:46,920
Turner YouTube Robbie Williams you know

1913
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,020
that they've actually worked with these

1914
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:51,120
these people it's not just like oh I

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01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:52,800
know him and I've said hello to him so

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01:12:59,450 --> 01:12:56,340
to get that kind of uh level of

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assistance with the music yeah I've

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01:13:02,990 --> 01:13:01,020
considered ourselves very lucky and the

1919
01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:03,000
witnesses you know Witnesses absolutely

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01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:04,520
stepping forward and

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you know laying these stories online for

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01:13:11,390 --> 01:13:09,960
us we're really fortunate well we'll

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01:13:13,070 --> 01:13:11,400
have you back on definitely have you

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01:13:14,689 --> 01:13:13,080
back on to discuss that once both lands

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01:13:15,709 --> 01:13:14,699
is ready so Paul thank you very much

1926
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again for your time today it's been

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great speaking with you as always thank

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you very much that is all for this

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because

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jump back and nearly kiss myself and I

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windows they thought it was a dream they

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can't sleep forever

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thank you